[ Angel pauses, tries to stall. She realizes that up until now she's been asking all the big questions, so set in that task that she wasn't prepared to give any answers. There's no way she's going to answer this with transparent honesty, "Oh you know, just having the Vault Hunters assist me in suicide, not a big deal!" And how much does Rhys know, about what transpired? Even if he knew Jacks recounts were lies how much did he know of the truth?
She's taking too long to reply. ] Do you remember Sanctuary?
The Crimson Raider outfit? Yeah I remember them. They're still going from what I hear, never met them though. Thankfully. I hear they're worse than the bandits.
[ But that could be the Hyperion in him talking since he...only ever heard about them from Hyperion propaganda. So. ]
Roland and Lilith played an integral part in [ setting her free ]ending Jacks rein. They were heroes, along side the other Hunters. [ and if things had gone differently, they could have been friends. ]
Anyways, that city taking flight is the last thing I can recall.
[ Or at least it's the last major event she can talk about without making things complicated for herself or giving too much away about her circumstances. ]
I don't know if I'd call them "Heroes". Yeah sure they helped get rid of Jack but they're Vault Hunters you know. They'd do anything for money.
[ Like help Vallory and take pot shots at Fiona, etc. ]
But yeah. After Sanctuary went up Jack sent a lot of resources down to the planet but they still beat him and the Vault thing he was trying to control. I think it was some sort of lava monster? A while after that Hyperion started getting stuff under control from a marketing standpoint but we'd pulled mostly out of Pandora by the time I went down there and found his AI in an ID drive.
That was sort of my fault. See Jack had been in my head for a while and he'd been helping us find the Vault. He got us out of a lot of tough situations I'm pretty sure we would have died in without him, so when we had to go to Helios for the last piece of the Gortys key I may have plugged him into the system.
Then he tried to kill us.
It was stupid and I know that so can we skip the part where you call me an idiot? Been through that a few times now and I get the point.
So the only way to take down Jack-the-program...was to take down all of Helios with him on board?
[ Sometimes something sounds so far fetched and unbelievable that it must be true, because who would make up something like that? This is one of those times. Because what would Rhys have to gain by lying this hard, with so much detail? It doesn't even seem as if he's embellishing as he had earlier, he even sounded ashamed. As he should be but... ]
I wasn't going to call you an idiot. It sounds as though you've been through a lot.
[ Because Jack had that effect on people, had it on her. He'll make you believe that he's a necessity, that the world out there is too much to handle (or that it cannot handle you, that you'll die without him. Then he'll kill you himself. ]
Technically that's true I guess. I wish I could say that's why I did it? But honestly I was just trying to open the hangar bay doors so we could all get out of there alive. If he hadn't tried to vent the power core I'm not sure I would've even thought about it.
I didn't think about it.
[ He still doesn't want to, actually, and after a pause Rhys pinches the bridge of his nose and sighs. ]
Anyway without its core Helios couldn't maintain orbit and crashed into Pandora, taking Jack with it. Mostly. He got back in my cybernetics so I had to rip them out before he killed me. Eventually it was just me and my ECHO eye with him inside it so I crushed it.
Thank you for telling me. I am truly sorry for asking you to relive the events in doing so and...how I have approached you.
[ It isn't fair, she knows, that Rhys has been so candid with her and still she's told him nothing of herself. She still can't risk it. She can't jeopardize her position in the name of fairness. But that doesn't mean she can't appreciate and even respect Rhys's open retelling of the events she missed, how he's even included all the shortcomings and trauma that came with them. Even if it was safe to be that honest about herself, she doesn't know if she'd have his strength to face it so directly.]
[ After the whole fiasco with The Stranger, Rhys isn't unfamiliar with the dynamic. He wishes maybe he knew a little more about this mysterious "Angie", but he's also not super-curious about her either. He's got a lot of other big things on his plate right now and while knowing more would be nice, he's also still not exactly on the level of "this is a person I should know about right now." ]
You could probably stand to work on your people skills a little, yeah. You're not exactly easy to talk to.
[ Try aggravating, though more often than not just annoying. It's like she can't decide if she wants to heckle him or talk to him and the back and forth there is a little tiring.
At least this conversation seems to have gone better. ]
[ One day Rhys's statement will be hilarious in its irony, but for now it just makes her sad, dredges up some of that old bitterness. A large portion of her role in Handsome Jacks scheming had been being the perfect people person, playing Jack's pied piper as she gained trust, got unsuspecting folks to trust and follow her into the roll Jack had planned for them...or their death. But that was never her, not really. And whoever she really is off script, who she was denied the chance to become, frustrates and upsets her more and more with each day. ] So what do you say about my proposal?
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[ Angel pauses, tries to stall. She realizes that up until now she's been asking all the big questions, so set in that task that she wasn't prepared to give any answers. There's no way she's going to answer this with transparent honesty, "Oh you know, just having the Vault Hunters assist me in suicide, not a big deal!" And how much does Rhys know, about what transpired? Even if he knew Jacks recounts were lies how much did he know of the truth?
She's taking too long to reply. ]
Do you remember Sanctuary?
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[ But that could be the Hyperion in him talking since he...only ever heard about them from Hyperion propaganda. So. ]
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Anyways, that city taking flight is the last thing I can recall.
[ Or at least it's the last major event she can talk about without making things complicated for herself or giving too much away about her circumstances. ]
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[ Like help Vallory and take pot shots at Fiona, etc. ]
But yeah. After Sanctuary went up Jack sent a lot of resources down to the planet but they still beat him and the Vault thing he was trying to control. I think it was some sort of lava monster? A while after that Hyperion started getting stuff under control from a marketing standpoint but we'd pulled mostly out of Pandora by the time I went down there and found his AI in an ID drive.
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Then he tried to kill us.
It was stupid and I know that so can we skip the part where you call me an idiot? Been through that a few times now and I get the point.
hdu incite sympathy, rhys
[ Sometimes something sounds so far fetched and unbelievable that it must be true, because who would make up something like that? This is one of those times. Because what would Rhys have to gain by lying this hard, with so much detail? It doesn't even seem as if he's embellishing as he had earlier, he even sounded ashamed. As he should be but... ]
I wasn't going to call you an idiot. It sounds as though you've been through a lot.
[ Because Jack had that effect on people, had it on her. He'll make you believe that he's a necessity, that the world out there is too much to handle (or that it cannot handle you, that you'll die without him. Then he'll kill you himself. ]
he's just that pathetic
I didn't think about it.
[ He still doesn't want to, actually, and after a pause Rhys pinches the bridge of his nose and sighs. ]
Anyway without its core Helios couldn't maintain orbit and crashed into Pandora, taking Jack with it. Mostly. He got back in my cybernetics so I had to rip them out before he killed me. Eventually it was just me and my ECHO eye with him inside it so I crushed it.
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[ It isn't fair, she knows, that Rhys has been so candid with her and still she's told him nothing of herself. She still can't risk it. She can't jeopardize her position in the name of fairness. But that doesn't mean she can't appreciate and even respect Rhys's open retelling of the events she missed, how he's even included all the shortcomings and trauma that came with them. Even if it was safe to be that honest about herself, she doesn't know if she'd have his strength to face it so directly.]
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You could probably stand to work on your people skills a little, yeah. You're not exactly easy to talk to.
[ Try aggravating, though more often than not just annoying. It's like she can't decide if she wants to heckle him or talk to him and the back and forth there is a little tiring.
At least this conversation seems to have gone better. ]
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[ One day Rhys's statement will be hilarious in its irony, but for now it just makes her sad, dredges up some of that old bitterness. A large portion of her role in Handsome Jacks scheming had been being the perfect people person, playing Jack's pied piper as she gained trust, got unsuspecting folks to trust and follow her into the roll Jack had planned for them...or their death.
But that was never her, not really. And whoever she really is off script, who she was denied the chance to become, frustrates and upsets her more and more with each day. ]
So what do you say about my proposal?
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[ JUST ONE LAST JAB and he's done being super-petty, he promises. ]
But alright sure. If it's to make sure Jack isn't going to be a problem...yeah. We can work together.
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Thank you. Hopefully with this we can finally both be free of him.